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stgenchev Mar 21, 2009 11:20 PM

Jetblue are a BUNCH of THIEFS
 
So, I flew with jetblue on March, 20th, 2009 from Fort Lauderdale to JFK. I got my baggage and the next day, when I arrived at my final destination I realized that my Armani Code and Paco Rabanne One Million 100ml colognes as well as my Callvin Klein sport bag were missing from the suitcase!!! I called the airline and they left me on the line 'pretending' they were doing sth for 15 minutes, after which I hung and called them bag multiple times but no one picked up... AHHHHH... I hate JEtblue. These were my favorite colognes!! I will never fly jetblue again, I SWEAR! they are a bunch of thiefs!!!!

Corbel Mar 22, 2009 12:02 AM

Once you check your bag TSA has control of it. file a complaint with them as well

IND2009 Mar 24, 2009 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Corbel (Post 7383)
Once you check your bag TSA has control of it. file a complaint with them as well

TSA has control of your bag for a matter of seconds unless an issue arises. Either the bag room rampers got in to it, or wherever it sat before it delivered to you.

PHXFlyer Mar 25, 2009 2:56 AM

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Originally Posted by IND2009 (Post 7432)
TSA has control of your bag for a matter of seconds unless an issue arises. Either the bag room rampers got in to it, or wherever it sat before it delivered to you.

Then why have hundreds of TSA agents been fired for theft and fraud? EXPLAIN!

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=266573

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The TSA has settled 15,000 passenger claims filed over theft by screeners and has paid out $1.5 million in damages. ABC News has learned that at New York's three major airports -- John F. Kennedy International, Newark Liberty International and LaGuardia -- 400 of the first 2,000 screeners hired had criminal records. In some cases, it seemed that the TSA hired screeners without first completing background checks. In others, screeners were apparently subjected to basic background checks, without detailed follow-up investigations.

IND2009 Mar 25, 2009 3:22 AM

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Originally Posted by PHXFlyer (Post 7444)
Then why have hundreds of TSA agents been fired for theft and fraud? EXPLAIN!

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=266573

I'm not saying TSA are all that innocent, by any means, but your bags are in the hands of bag room handlers alot longer than TSA, that was my point!! I've been in this Industry for 20+ years, I've worked the ramp for a short period of time, before I started my career as a Flight Attendant, i've seen situations that i've wished i've never had to witness, i've seen flights CXLD, misconnects, transfers and had no other way to reroute, i've seen 100's of bags sitting in the bag room for 2-3 days, so from first hand experience, regardless about what you read, i've witness it. I know what goes on behind the scene on the ground and inflight.

PHXFlyer Mar 25, 2009 3:38 AM

Here's yet another example from a more recent article:

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Tuesday, Dec 16, 2008, 3:08 PM
465 TSA officers have been fired for theft since early 2003, reports the New York Times. This year alone, the agency paid out $1 million in claims for missing possessions or damaged bags, says the Economist's Gulliver blog.
I'm not saying that ALL theft/pilferage from baggage is by TSA but your argument is flimsy. Just because bags sit around doesn't mean the baggage handlers have the opportunity to rifle through bags to find valuables. The TSA has much greater access to bags and also knows their contents from the x-ray machines.

Most airlines have cut their employee numbers by more than 10% over the past year. Your assumption is based on the presumption that baggage handlers have scads of time on their hands to pick through random bags in the hope that their efforts will yield a valuable find. I find it hard to believe that they have so much spare time on their hands otherwise the bags would never get loaded on the planes! TSA, on the other hand, has the screening devices and training to know what is actually inside a bag without it even being opened. In this way they can "cherry pick" bags that contain electronics, jewelery, cash, etc. which are worthwhile to a theif.

Why, may I ask, are you so ready to defend the agents of the TSA and at the same time so willing to throw airline baggage handlers "under the bus?" I know there's plenty of guilt to go around, but really dude...how big IS that chip on your shoulder?

IND2009 Mar 25, 2009 4:02 AM

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Originally Posted by PHXFlyer (Post 7446)
Here's yet another example from a more recent article:

I'm not saying that ALL theft/pilferage from baggage is by TSA but your argument is flimsy. Just because bags sit around doesn't mean the baggage handlers have the opportunity to rifle through bags to find valuables. The TSA has much greater access to bags and also knows their contents from the x-ray machines.

Most airlines have cut their employee numbers by more than 10% over the past year. Your assumption is based on the presumption that baggage handlers have scads of time on their hands to pick through random bags in the hope that their efforts will yield a valuable find. I find it hard to believe that they have so much spare time on their hands otherwise the bags would never get loaded on the planes! TSA, on the other hand, has the screening devices and training to know what is actually inside a bag without it even being opened. In this way they can "cherry pick" bags that contain electronics, jewelery, cash, etc. which are worthwhile to a theif.

Why, may I ask, are you so ready to defend the agents of the TSA and at the same time so willing to throw airline baggage handlers "under the bus?" I know there's plenty of guilt to go around, but really dude...how big IS that chip on your shoulder?

First of all stop reading between the lines, I'm not defending TSA, to be upfront and honest I have no respect for TSA, not all but some. Almost every city i've overnited in it's a something with them, until they get to know you. So where do you get off saying that "i'm defending them" and about "cherry picking" I was never involved and didn't want any part of that, I'm guessing its all hit or miss I don't know and I really don't care, I did my job and went home, and I have the same attitude now do my job and go home, and according to your sig your not even a airline employee, you have no clue what goes on behind the scenes only what you read in the press, and according to you, you fly often, congrads to you!! I have more mile under my belt than you will ever have in your lifetime, I'm not trying to be rude to you, I don't even know you only from your responses, but you come off as a "Know it all" when you have over 20 years under your belt in this industry then we can talk. And I don't have a chip on my shoulder by any means, I'm only stating the facts!!

PHXFlyer Mar 25, 2009 4:31 AM

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Originally Posted by IND2009 (Post 7448)
First of all stop reading between the lines, I'm not defending TSA, to be upfront and honest I have no respect for TSA, not all but some. Almost every city i've overnited in it's a something with them, until they get to know you. So where do you get off saying that "i'm defending them" and about "cherry picking" I was never involved and didn't want any part of that, I'm guessing its all hit or miss I don't know and I really don't care, I did my job and went home, and I have the same attitude now do my job and go home, and according to your sig your not even a airline employee, you have no clue what goes on behind the scenes only what you read in the press, and according to you, you fly often, congrads to you!! I have more mile under my belt than you will ever have in your lifetime, I'm not trying to be rude to you, I don't even know you only from your responses, but you come off as a "Know it all" when you have over 20 years under your belt in this industry then we can talk. And I don't have a chip on my shoulder by any means, I'm only stating the facts!!

Please tell me who you work for so I can take my business ELSEWHERE!

jimworcs Mar 25, 2009 8:00 AM

The truth is, neither of you know whether it was the TSA or the baggage handlers. Both have been exposed in the past theiving. I remember a sting at JFK where baggage handlers were filming robbing passengers blind. The TSA do have the advantage of knowing what is in the bag. Maybe you should travel with cheaper cologne. I recommend Lynx, no one would nick that.

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So where do you get off saying that "i'm defending them" and about "cherry picking" I was never involved and didn't want any part of that, I'm guessing its all hit or miss I don't know and I really don't care, I did my job and went home, and I have the same attitude now do my job and go home, and according to your sig your not even a airline employee, you have no clue what goes on behind the scenes only what you read in the press, and according to you, you fly often, congrads to you!!
btw Ind2009, on your travels see if you can pick up a "period". I ran out of breath and nearly fainted reading your post!! That sentence has to be close to a record!

IND2009 Apr 3, 2009 11:15 AM

ABC News is running a video about theft of luggage contents. ABC's -based affiliate focused on IAH and CO, but noted that theft is on the rise at other as well.

http://www.yahoo.com/s/1051991


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