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Old Feb 2, 2010, 4:54 PM
rthexton rthexton is offline
 
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i want to know how many carry on items the OP had. he states he had his books, magazines, pillow, and blanket, that could be put into one backpack. you are allowed 2 carryons. rollerboard and personal item. he says he couldn't carry another backpack with the camera in it...why not? you could have, thats 2 carry ons. if they state reliable safe transportation...they did that right? you made it to your destination safe, just without your camera unfortunetly
First, I am a she. Second, I was told that I could have one carry on and a purse and that I could not bring my camera bag on board unless I wanted to check my carry on which contains simple items to ensure my comfort, items that the airline no longer provides for customers.
If I had to carry everything on board that I didn't want stolen, I could never travel. This is insane!!
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Old Feb 2, 2010, 5:36 PM
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http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2...ith-theft.html

http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0809/653820.html

http://www.denverda.org/News_Release...20forgery.html

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P2-1123292.html

Bob, I am not defending the TSA. It seems to be staffed by people who are too stupid to work for a real public security agency like the Police or FBI. I also have no doubt that they have a lot of thieves working for them. I have made more links for you. It doesn't prove anything, other than what I said. There is simply no basis for claiming that the TSA are more likely to steal from a passengers bag than an airline employee. Indeed, scroll down on the first link and look at the comments. There an airline employee admits it is a regular occurance and he is one of the thieves!

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I know that, but in your first statement you push blame solely on the airline and in the second you state:
No Bob.. I said that there was no way to know did it. However, we do know one thing. The bag was in the care of the airline when it was robbed.

On CCTV, it does not always act as a deterrent, but it would allow crimes to be investigated and the culprit found, if they are TSA. I am sure it would act as a deterrent if they knew every time that it was filmed and traceable.

Anyway, I am offering you a compromise. Many TSA and many airline employees are a bunch of thieves.
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Old Feb 2, 2010, 6:24 PM
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If I had to carry everything on board that I didn't want stolen, I could never travel. This is insane!!
TO Ms Hexton:

There is nothing insane about air travel. There are adequate remedies and the most obvious is a complaint to DOT which people don't bother with and a claim in small claims court which still less people pursue.

Some airline diehards seem to be missing the point which I think you have recognised, which is that the airline's liability arises not from your being able to identify that the theft came from its employees or agents. In fact the suggestion that you blame TSA is only a distraction to you.

You don't need to talk about theft at all. That is usually a matter for the police.

A passenger's claim is a civil claim. He gives the airline his bag at the start of the trip and at the end he says to the airline, just hand over my bags otherwise pay for my stuff lost while the bag was in your care. The airline doofuses don't appreciate that t's not the passenger's concern how the bag was pilfered.

The moment you start talking theft, you put the burden of proof on yourself and it is a heavy burden, to prove the crime beyond a reasonable doubt.


The pertinent point here is as Jimworcs says:

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However, we do know one thing. The bag was in the care of the airline when it was robbed.

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And that's all you need to prove, plus the value of the lost camera.

It only adds to the strength of your claim that the airlines have not set up the simple steps of monitoring the bags with security cameras. It is not at all costly as someone suggested. These things have become so cheap now that for a few thousand dollars a homeowner can have a string of cameras around his home connected to a computer and monitor through the internet from a remote location.
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