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Old Dec 7, 2011, 11:27 PM
jimworcs jimworcs is offline
 
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Default Alec Baldwin and US based airlines

Over the last few years, I have been arguing that to get a decent level of service when travelling internationally, you should travel on a non US based airline...and this is the only way that they will change. Alec Baldwin apparently agrees:....

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First off, I would like to apologize to the other passengers onboard the American Airlines flight that I was thrown off of yesterday. It was never my intention to inconvenience anyone with my "issue" with a certain flight attendant.

I suppose a part of my frustration lay with the fact that I had flown American for over 20 years and was brand loyal, in the extreme. The ticketing agents and Admiral's Club staff have always been nothing but abundantly helpful to me, as I have flown hundreds of thousands of miles with the one carrier.

My confusion began when the flight, already a half hour behind schedule, boarded, the door closed, and we proceeded to sit at the gate for another fifteen minutes. I then did what I have nearly always done and that was to pull out my phone to complete any other messaging I had to do before take off. In nearly all other instances, the flight attendants seemed to be unbothered by and said nothing about such activity, by me or anyone else, until we actually were pulling away from the gate.

In this case, while other people were still manipulating their own phones, this one employee singled me out to put my phone away. Afterward, we still sat at the gate. I pulled out my phone again, while others did the same. Again, I was singled out by this woman in the most unpleasant of tones. I guess the fact that this woman, who had decided to make some example of me, while everyone else was left undisturbed, did get the better of me.

However, I have learned a valuable lesson. Airlines in the US are struggling with fuel costs, labor costs, bankruptcies, you name it. It's no secret that the level of service on US carriers has deteriorated to a point that would make Howard Hughes red-faced. Filthy planes, barely edible meals, cuts in jet service to less-traveled locations. One of the big changes, in my time, is in the increase of the post-9/11, paramilitary bearing of much of the air travel business. September 11th was a horrific day in the airline industry, yet in the wake of that event, I believe carriers and airports have used that as an excuse to make the air travel experience as inelegant as possible.

Most of the flight attendants I have ever encountered still have some remnant of the old idea of service. Add to that the notion that in this day and age, many people have a lot of important work to do, by phone, and would like to do so till the last possible minute. But there are many now who walk the aisles of an airplane with a whistle around their neck and a clipboard in their hands and they have made flying a Greyhound bus experience.

The lesson I've learned is to keep my phone off when the 1950's gym teacher is on duty. That was my fault there, even though this trip was quite a bit different from so many others. But it is sad, I think, that you've got to fly overseas today in order to bring back what has been thrown overboard by US carriers in terms of common sense, style, and service.

Again, my apology to my fellow travelers.

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Old Dec 8, 2011, 7:03 AM
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He admittedly didn't follow a crew member's instructions. Case closed.
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Old Dec 8, 2011, 7:11 AM
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Yeah, he didn't and he paid a price...but his comments regarding the change in tone of FA's and the abuse of their "power" resonate with posts by other passengers on here and other forums.
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Old Dec 8, 2011, 12:01 PM
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Don't be too quick to judge this particular flight attendant.There are two sides to every story. According to the national news, as reported by witnesses to the event, the flight attendant "quietly" asked him to turn off his device. Then, according to the witnesses, Alec Baldwin became enraged, shouted profanities at the attendant, then went into the bathroom and slammed the door, breaking it. It was his bad behaviour that delayed the flight and caused him to be removed. Some individuals, including a lot of celebrities, believe that no one has the right to tell them anything and that they can behave however they wish.
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Old Dec 9, 2011, 2:52 AM
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After having worked as a crewmember for airlines for many years, I know how passengers can be. I've had to have many passengers removed from my flights following inappropriate behavior. The crewmembers are taught to be polite and not instigate any rude behavior. I'm sure after being provoked though the flight attendant, being in her rights, asked the captain to contact the handlers and have Mr. Baldwin removed from the flight. My thoughts are that if you want to act inappropriatly, then you should charter your own private jets. As a pilot on those also, I still would not put up with any bad attitudes.
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